Monday Mournings: The Death of a Spouse

Today, I am pleased to have a friend from school on the blog. Originally from New York, Corin Hirsch is a food and drinks writer who now resides in the lovely state of Vermont.


DW: Who was the person that died? CH: My husband, Nicholas Sayer.

DW: How old were you at the time? CH: 30

DW: How old was Nicholas? CH: 28
DW: Was it a sudden death or did you know it was going to happen? CH: It was sudden. Nick was a tree surgeon, and was working in a pine tree when he slipped and hit some wires with his shoulder and was electrocuted. He likely (hopefully) died instantly.

DW: Did you and the person talk about death? CH: Strangely enough, we were watching a film a few nights earlier when Nick became reflective about a brush with death when he was a teenager. He imagined out loud what people would say at his funeral, and we also joked about what each of us would do if the other died -- hover around and vet potential partners, etc. He insisted that if he didn't approve of the person I was dating, he would unleash supernatural forces to drive them away.

DW: Had you experienced any other deaths in your personal life before this person died? CH: Yes, my mother died suddenly when I was 10 and she was 35. I had also lost two of my grandparents by that point.

DW: Were people supportive of your grief or did they shy away when you were grieving? CH: My family and friends were immensely supportive, even as they grieved in their own ways. My father was a rock, and friends of ours flew in from the UK (he was English). A few stuck around until his memorial service a few days later. Without all of these incredible people, I'm not sure if I would have made it through without resorting to Class A drugs. (I'm kidding, but only by half).
I was in shock for a long while, though, which didn't wear off until nearly a year later. Then, depression set in. Naturally, people move on with their lives and sometimes their patience can wear thin with a person who's blue. I tried not to impose much on others beyond the point of reasonable expectation, so grief became more private and in some ways, more insidious.

DW: Is there anything you wish you'd done differently with this person? CH: The night before Nick died, I didn't go to bed when he did because I wanted to stay up late and work on a poem for my brother and his fiancee, who were getting married a few days later. (I was supposed to read the poem at the wedding). I regret that....but on the last morning I saw him, I uncharacteristically offered to ride with him to work, at the ungodly hour of 6:30 in the morning. I remember looking at his hands in the car and thinking how much I loved those, and him. When he was walking into work, I lingered and stared at him, and he turned at the door and gave me a puzzled smile before heading inside.

DW: Was he buried or cremated? CH: A friend of Nick's went with me to the funeral home to pick up the ashes, and I rode home with them in my lap. They were still warm. Some of his ashes are buried at a cemetery in Surrey, where his family can visit; his stone overlooks the South Downs, his favorite place to wander in the woods and spy on animals. It's an almost mystical place, on the grounds of a centuries-old Christian church.

DW: Did you learn anything about the grieving process that you'd like to share? CH: Depending on circumstance, shock can last a long time, and completely bend your sense of time and location. And though the sting of the loss never completely goes away, life does go on — that's a cliche, of course, but you realize how quickly the world swallows up our memory. The people who knew Nick will never forget him, but in a generation or two, who will remember him, or me, or you? It's very humbling, and when you grieve someone's death, you can see that process happening in real time.

DW: Were any songs played at the memorial that were important to Nicholas? CH: Wilco & Bill Bragg, Remember The Mountain Bed. I had listened to that song all autumn while running in the woods, and its lyrics were (and still are) resonant. Nick's brother learned it and played it at his UK memorial.

That, and Tom Waits 'Take It With Me' Nick listened to it a few times before he passed and once I caught him tearing up to the lyrics. It makes you wonder, did he know somehow?
This goes out to Nicholas.

Monday Mournings: The Death of a Grandmother

I didn't have anyone to talk with today, so I'm going to interview myself about the only person I've known and loved who died.
Who was the person that died?My grandma Lola.
How old were you at the time?Fourteen
How old was the person?Eighty-six
Was it a sudden death or did you know it was going to happen?It wasn't sudden like a car accident, but it felt sudden. My mom took her to the doctor at the beginning of December, she was diagnosed with cancer, admitted to the hospital and on December 21 she died.
Did you and the person talk about their death? No. Never. Didn't get the opportunity.
Had you experienced any other deaths in your personal life before this person died?No.
Were people supportive of your grief or did they shy away when you were grieving?My mom and I didn't really talk about it, even though grandma Lola had lived with us since I was seven. It was a very strange time and I was in the throes of adolescent angst. I didn't know how to process it.
Is there anything you wish you'd done differently with this person?I wish I'd told her how much I appreciated her presence in my life. I was kind of a pain. My grandma loved pork and we ate it ALL the time. Even when we didn't eat pork, there was bacon grease in almost everything she cooked. I complained a lot. I wish I'd been nicer to her.
Was she buried or cremated?Buried
Did you learn anything about the grieving process that you'd like to share?Well, no, but now I know that it's important to talk to kids about death and not to "protect" them when people are dying. I wasn't allowed to visit her at the hospital and I don't know why that was. I wish I would have been able to say goodbye. And to thank her for teaching me how to knit, make kick butt cookies and for helping me out with my paper route.
Last but not least, were any songs played at the memorial that were important to the person? Okay, here's the kicker. I was fourteen but I can't for the life of me remember her memorial service. All I remember is the three hour drive. My family members started singing Beatles' songs to pass the time and I was so pissed off that I wanted to jump out of the car. It did not seem like the proper way to mourn someone. What did I know?

Monday Mournings: The Death of a Friend

My name is David Cambron Justin and I am 38 years old. I’m originally from Grand Prairie, Texas, a DFW Metroplex suburb, but currently live in Hurst, Texas, yet another suburb in the Metroplex. I work as a service representative for the Evil Galactic Empire. At least, that’s what I call the telecom giant that employs me. When I’m not working, commuting, playing softball or writing, I spend time with my twin daughters and my girlfriend.

DW: Who was the person that died?
DCJ: One of my best friends, Charles William Hass, on January 27, 2001. We were both members of Kappa Kappa Psi, National Honorary Band Fraternity, although we were never members of the same chapter. He was initiated and served in the Gamma Pi chapter at Purdue University in Indiana, while I was initiated and served in the Epsilon Kappa chapter at Angelo State University and also served in the Delta Sigma chapter at the University of Texas at Arlington, both in Texas. We met when he took a job transfer to the DFW Metroplex.

DW: How old were you at the time?
DCJ: I had just turned 27.

DW: How old was your friend?
DCJ: He was also 27.

DW: Was it a sudden death or did you know it was going to happen?
DCJ: Very sudden. Charles was an industrial engineer at FedEx. He had just transferred to the San Francisco Bay Area two months before his death. According to police reports, Charles was walking out of a convenience store in Oakland, California, with Aaron, a guy he had just started dating. Willie Green, who falsely identified himself as a police officer, attempted to detain them. Aaron asked to see a badge and when Green refused, he went into the store and told them to call police. When Aaron returned, Green, who stood 6’4 and weighed 240 lbs had picked Charles up by his jacket. Charles was 5’9 and weighed 140 lbs. Aaron attacked Green, who then turned and stabbed Aaron in the chest, the knife puncturing his lung. But Aaron stunned Green by hitting him in the head with a bottle and he and Charles escaped. However, unbeknownst to Aaron, while holding Charles in the air, Green stabbed Charles deep in the chest, penetrating his heart. Charles did not survive. Aaron eventually recovered. Willie Green was eventually found guilty and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

DW: Had you experienced any other deaths in your personal life before your friend died?
DCJ: Yes. I had several older relatives pass away, including my grandfather. However, I wasn’t very close to any of them, so the emotional impact was very minimal. Charles’ death was overwhelming to me, as it was to many, many people. He travelled extensively and never met a stranger. No one claimed him as just a ‘friend.’ If you knew him, then he was a great friend or a best friend because he truly and deeply cared about you and always would. Since then, I’ve attended funerals for two more brothers. One died of brain cancer, the other from a motorcycle accident.

DW: Were people supportive of your grief or did they shy away when you were grieving?
DCJ: There were many of us, fraternity brothers of Charles, that grieved together. We were all very supportive of each other.

DW: Is there anything you wish you’d done differently with this person?
DCJ: Honestly, no. During the short time I knew Charles, I spent a wonderful amount of time with him at parties, dinners, fraternity conventions, road trips, etc… He was always up for a new adventure and I was lucky enough to be apart of that.

DW: Was he buried or cremated?
DCJ: I believe that he was buried but I don’t know for sure. I was unable to attend his funeral. It was held in Indianapolis, where he was from and where his mother and sister still lived. Those of us in Texas held our own memorial for him based on our fraternal customs. I was honored to give the eulogy.

DW: Did you learn anything about the grieving process that you’d like to share?
DCJ: The thing that I noticed the most was that we all grieved in very different ways. Some of the brothers wanted to grieve privately, while others wanted the company. This was really the first time I truly grieved over the loss of someone close to me, so it was very difficult.

DW: Were any songs played at the memorial that were important to your friend?
DCJ: We didn’t play any music, but we sang our fraternity hymn, which very appropriately contains these words:


I do not know how long ‘twill be,
Or what the future holds for me.
But this I know, if I must die,
I am a brother of K-K-Psi.
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